Why are rivers so mathematical?

(quantamagazine.org)

32 points | by sebg 4 days ago

5 comments

  • PeterWhittaker 7 hours ago
    But rivers have been mathematical for only something less than ~60 years, no? Mandelbrot's paper on the length of the coastline of Albion was in the mid 60s or so, and the math that made rivers mathematical (fractals, chaos theory) came after that (within my lifetime!).

    Rivers are mathematical only because we have so improved our mathematics in recent times (when my parents were born, they were random and non-deterministic, mysterious).

  • ssalka 11 hours ago
    Rivers form fractal shapes just like how Iterated Function Systems[1] and L-systems[2] form: by simple branching, carried out at varying levels of scale. A gentle reminder that fractals are nature's favorite building block.

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iterated_function_system

    [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L-system

  • goobleplex 22 hours ago
    This is backwards cause-effect

    Mathematical axioms are derived from sensory experience in this physical reality

    The math is actually river-like

    • rcxdude 8 hours ago
      It's not obvious that either way should work.
  • MengerSponge 11 hours ago
    "THE UNREASONABLE EFFECTIVENSS OF MATHEMATICS IN THE NATURAL SCIENCES" https://webhomes.maths.ed.ac.uk/~v1ranick/papers/wigner.pdf
  • effnorwood 1 hour ago
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