Babylonian Lamb Stew with Beets (1750–1730 BCE)

(babylonian-collection.yale.edu)

76 points | by yubblegum 3 days ago

7 comments

  • dvh 5 hours ago
    Apparently their beets looked the same as ours:

    > The kind of beets used in such an ancient recipe should not be different from the beets we use today, even in name. We read in Dictionary of Assyrian Botany (by Campbell Thompson, 1948) that in the ancient Mesopotamian region it was called ‘shumundar,’ it was as red as blood, and has a spinning-top shape (pp. 49, 51).

    • thaumasiotes 37 minutes ago
      If it's any consolation, their lambs were nothing like ours.

      This period is early enough that sheep weren't yet sheared.

    • alephnerd 4 hours ago
      The recipe is also similar to Hamedh [0], a delicacy in Iraqi and Baghdadi Jewish households. The only major difference is the addition of tomatoes thanks to the Columbian Exchange, and rice - which would have not been cultivated or traded in West Asia yet.

      On that note, in Arabic, Farsi, and Hindustani the word for Tomato is essentially shared (tumatar/tamatimu) with the English word "tomato".

      But anyhow, a lot of home cooking and traditional meals actually have a pretty long history.

      [0] - https://www.splendidtable.org/story/2000/12/12/hamad-iraqi-b...

      • amir_karbasi 1 hour ago
        Actually, in Persian, tomato is literally translated as “western plum”. This is common in our language as we usually say “western” or “foreign” as a prefix to many things that were introduced to Iran (strawberries, sit-style toilets, etc)
        • riffraff 52 minutes ago
          Interesting, in various European languages those tend to be "Turkish": turkey hens (the bird called turkey now), Turkish corn (maize), Turkish beans (long beans).

          Again, trade routes.

          • oldandboring 13 minutes ago
            > maize

            Which, in turn, originated in Mexico and didn't make its way to Europe until the 1500s.

        • alephnerd 59 minutes ago
          Appreciate the clarification!
          • amir_karbasi 30 minutes ago
            My pleasure! I also find languages very interesting and have had the opportunity to grow up in a bilingual home and learn French and German.

            One more fun fact is that potato is a direct translation of the French “Pomme de terre” (“sib zamani” or “ground apple”).

            Back to the actual topic, this is a recipe that’s definitely worth trying. Persian shallots are actually more garlicky than oniony. A great addition to lamb dishes and yogurt.

  • yubblegum 2 hours ago
    I'm reading Lloyd Llewellyn-Jones' Babylon - The Biography of a Metropolis which just recently came out, and that's how I ended up hearing about Yale's culinary adventures.

    The book, btw, is kind of breezy in style and 'he of many LLs in his name' (Lālu-mullālu in Akkadian as suggested by my friendly AI) uses a lot of contemporary pop (nerdy) references to carry the narrative, yet very engaging and am learning a lot about this fabled city (and civilization).

    It sets certain records straight ...

  • eikenberry 3 hours ago
    Close to a recipe on Tasting History... https://www.tastinghistory.com/recipes/babylonianlambstew Our current favorite dinner watching along with Alton Brown.
  • comrade1234 4 hours ago
    How's the presentation? Just imagining it, it would seem that the meet would have a weird color.
    • debo_ 3 hours ago
      It looks great. When I first saw it, I thought "this color can't be beet"
  • bornfreddy 3 hours ago
    I think the taste of their beer would have been much different from what we drink today?
  • analog8374 3 hours ago
    I dislike lamb but the rest sounds great. Maybe I could sub beef.
  • thataccount 3 days ago
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    • tom_ 4 hours ago
      Curious indeed that the Yale Babylonian Collection should, out of all the possible options, choose the cooking of Ancient Babylon. I wonder what we should read into this. I have some theories, but it might be dangerous for me even to mention that I have them.
    • yubblegum 3 days ago
      Cradle of civilization is not an odd culture. Babylon, meaning Gate of God, is one of the more profoundly influential urban civilizational clusters in human history.
      • thataccount 3 days ago
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        • ahazred8ta 2 days ago
          To an archeologist, 'civilization' refers to builders of walled cities inhabited by non-farmers with complex social sructure, division of labor, and usually some form of taxation. Highly moral hunter gatherers living in mud huts are not a 'civilization' in this context. Now you know.
        • BugsJustFindMe 4 hours ago
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