5 comments

  • userbinator 43 minutes ago
    Because the location of the pole is constantly shifting, the TRM of ancient pottery points in a slightly different direction than that of pottery made today.

    Did anyone else have a strong "WTF?" reaction upon reading that sentence? Yes, the pole has moved. No, it's completely irrelevant given that not every piece of pottery even manufactured at the same time is going to be fired in the exact same orientation relative to the pole.

    The researchers determined that any sample older than a millennium had to be heated to at least 234 degrees Fahrenheit before its VRM was erased. New pottery samples’ VRMs, meanwhile, could be wiped at lower temperatures.

    That's a more useful difference which I would attribute to the ceramics having different Curie points in their compositions, and of course it's not something too difficult to change: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie_temperature#Changing_a_m...

    Incidentally, this effect of temperature on magnetism is how the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto-optical_drive media records data.

  • thangalin 44 minutes ago
    https://impacts.to/downloads/lowres/impacts.pdf#page=23

    Quoting my book:

    "Studying these layered strata is known as magnetostratigraphy and can be used to verify radioactive dating methods. Geologists used magnetostratigraphy to cross-check the dates of the Nakali Formation, where Nakalipithecus nakayamai’s jaw was found."

  • flimflamm 2 hours ago
    What prevents forgers from generating such magnetic fields? That might be worth while if people start to blindly believing that "pottery frozen magnetic fields are not possible to counterfeit". Note that "not possible to counterfeit" is not a claim in the article.
    • po1nt 1 hour ago
      I would love to see such counterfeiting. The gear they would need to get and the scientists.
    • adrian_b 1 hour ago
      From TFA:

      > “So it’s hard for us to be ahead of the forgers since they can read our papers and figure out ways to trick our methods.”

  • mayneack 1 hour ago
    The method of seems to involve hearing the artifacts which seems plausibly risky for an ancient artifact.
  • profsummergig 1 hour ago
    can this clue be circumvented by using magnets oriented in a certain way around the workshop while constructing the pottery?
    • comrade1234 1 hour ago
      There are two fields. The second very weak field is acquired over centuries, I assume when the piece is not moved. The primary stronger field is created when it's first formed. I think what you're talking about would orientate the primary field, not the weak field.
      • skew-aberration 1 hour ago
        The second field can probably be created by changing the first field while the piece is still cooling down.