The top secret URSALA, RAQUEL, and FARRAH satellites

(thespacereview.com)

91 points | by Bluestein 1 hour ago

5 comments

  • Almondsetat 54 minutes ago
    The incredible and futuristic technologies the US managed to deploy decades before the competition reminds me of the story of how the NRO gifted NASA a couple of their old decommissioned satellites in 2012 and they turned out to be basically upgraded Hubble telescopes pointed at earth. The US from the 90s to the 2000s had multiple Hubble-level telescopes just for spying while NASA was fighting for scraps to study the entire cosmos.
    • toomuchtodo 44 minutes ago
      One of the NRO optical imaging system gifts (from the canceled NRO Future Imagery Architecture reconnaissance satellite program) is in the recently launched Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope.

      https://science.nasa.gov/mission/roman-space-telescope/

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Grace_Roman_Space_Telesc...

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_National_Reconnaissance_O...

    • ironqcold 48 minutes ago
      I didn't know about this, that's interesting
    • corvad 46 minutes ago
      I mean NASA's budget was/is minuscule in comparison to defense spending so I am not surprised.
      • deepsun 37 minutes ago
        How? NASA budget is around 20-30bn in recent years, same scale as US Space Force department budget (26bn in recent years, 40bn in 2026). Comparable, but not minuscule.
        • whatever1 32 minutes ago
          Why is the space force budget relevant? The US has had spy satellites decades before the clown made the space force for his family and friends to feast.
          • jandrewrogers 14 minutes ago
            The Space Force has existed for decades before Trump. It was part of the Air Force and is still organized under that Department. They have been slowly increasing its independence as a branch of the military for a long time.

            It isn't much different than how the Air Force was eventually carved out of the Army Air Corps.

          • dmix 29 minutes ago
            From google:

            > NASA's total enacted budget for fiscal year 1996 was approximately $13.9 billion

            > a 1996 bipartisan commission report noted that the NRO possessed "by far the largest budget of any intelligence agency," and contemporary experts track the broader military space budget at roughly $10 billion to $11 billion annually for the NRO alone

            So pretty similar budgets. The NRO imaging lens used in Nancy Grace was manufactured in 1999 but planning started in 1996.

    • shevy-java 48 minutes ago
      I am not entirely convinced. Was not Hubble damaged and got an upgrade lateron? I mean it could be possible that NASA is starved, but the repair involved other countries too, and I don't think the USA could keep mega-super-duper technology hidden from others in the long run. And NASA often wants more money - just take the whole search for life on planets. This is so pointless - life exists already here. What is the addiction to want to find life outside of the planet? Other than, of course, getting more money, which is understandable, but it doesn't answer the question. (Not that I am against better technology; the rationale just does not convince me at all here.)
      • esseph 11 minutes ago
        > I don't think the USA could keep mega-super-duper technology hidden from others in the long run.

        The US has a history of keeping vehicles, weapons, and operations hidden for decades, even things in the past decade.

        > What is the addiction to want to find life outside of the planet?

        Knowledge. Trade. Technology. Weapons. Religion. Science. Sex (lol).

        "to explore strange new worlds

        to seek out new life and new civilizations

        to boldly go where no one has gone before!"

      • addaon 43 minutes ago
        Hubble wasn’t damaged, the mirror was mis-shaped (by design) to be near-sighted, needing a corrective lens.

        But if you were looking at nearer objects…

        • r58lf 31 minutes ago
          probably what you mean, but to be clear there was an error in manufacturing the mirror. There was a calibration piece that was slightly larger then the design called for.
  • dbdoug 28 minutes ago
    I’m not going to be alive in 40 years, but I would like to have known what classified information will be released in 2066 dealing with satellites in orbit now?
    • wmf 6 minutes ago
      Starshield is pretty cool.
  • Jtsummers 1 hour ago
    Related submission: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49914880 - "A Cold War Spy Satellite Named After Farrah Fawcett Just Blew Apart in Orbit"
  • walrus01 15 minutes ago
  • shevy-java 50 minutes ago
    I am more concerned about Facebook's Spyglasses. That one is quite pertinent.